Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmation hearings live updates: Judge fends off attacks on 2nd day of questioning

Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmation hearings live updates: Judge fends off attacks on 2nd day of questioning
Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmation hearings live updates: Judge fends off attacks on 2nd day of questioning
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(WASHINGTON) — Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black woman nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court, faces another day of questions Wednesday after over 12 hours of grilling Tuesday on Day 2 of her four-day confirmation hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Here is how the news is developing Wednesday. Check back for updates.

Mar 23, 7:37 pm
2nd day of questioning ends

After nearly 11 hours, the Senate Judiciary Committee’s second day of questioning has ended. Jackson had two emotional moments towards the end of the day as she gave answers to Democratic Sens. Cory Booker and Alex Padilla.

While Jackson is done for the day, the senators are not. They’ll now go into a closed session to review Jackson’s FBI background check — a part of the process for every nominee.

Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., ended the day thanking her for her “patience, dignity and grace” amid some “offensive treatment.”

Durbin said the committee will consider the nomination on March 28 at 3 p.m. ET. That means the committee vote will be one week later, per tradition.

That puts the full Senate on track to meet its goal of confirming Jackson by April 8 — when the Senate goes on recess.

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 7:00 pm
Jackson gets emotional recounting experience as Harvard freshman

Jackson again wiped away tears during Wednesday’s questioning when Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Calif., asked her what she’d say to “young Americans, the most diverse generation in our nation’s history … some of them who may doubt that they can one day achieve the same great heights that you have?”

Jackson responded, “I hope to inspire people.”

Jackson wiped away tears, saying, “Young people are the future … I want them to know that they can do and be anything.”

She remained emotional as she recounted an experience she had as a freshman at Harvard.

Harvard “was different from anything I had known. There were lots of students there who were prep school kids — like my husband — who knew all about Harvard, and that was not me,” she said, as the crowd laughed.

“The first semester I was really home sick. I was really questioning, ‘Do I belong here? Can I make it in this environment?'” Jackson recounted. “And I was walking through the yard in the evening and a Black woman I did not know was passing me on the sidewalk. And she looked at me, and I guess she knew how I was feeling. And she leaned over as we crossed and said, ‘Persevere.'”

Circling back to Padilla’s question, Jackson said she’d tell young Americans “to persevere.”

Mar 23, 5:45 pm
Judge tears up as Booker invokes ancestors

Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., called out Republicans for accusing Jackson of being soft on sentencing in child porn cases, noting that Jackson wasn’t questioned in this way when she was appointed last year to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

Booker said to Jackson, “You were put on a court, that I’m told, is considered like the second most powerful court in our land. And you were passed with bipartisan support. Nobody brought it up then. Did they not do their homework?”

The Republicans’ “allegations appear meritless to the point of demagoguery,” Booker said.

Booker, overcome with emotion, said to Jackson when he looks at her he sees his mom and cousins, noting one of his cousins was sitting behind her at the hearing. “She had to have your back. I see my ancestors and yours,” he said.

Jackson wiped away tears as Booker spoke.

Booker stressed, “Nobody is going to steal that joy. You have earned this spot. You are worthy.”

He later added: “God has got you.”

Mar 23, 5:23 pm
Graham says ‘stay tuned’ on his support for Jackson

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who supported Jackson’s confirmation to the D.C. Circuit but has been combative at times during questioning, said to “stay tuned” about whether he would support her this time around.

“The difference between the two jobs is she can make policy with this job — she can change the law. The D.C. Circuit, she’s sort of bound by what the Supreme Court [has] done. So just say tuned,” he said.

Graham continued his attacks on Jackson on Wednesday, accusing her of trying to “run out the clock.”

“I like Judge Jackson. I don’t think she’s sympathetic as a person to child pornography, but I think her sentencing regime doesn’t create deterrence,” he said.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who also supported Jackson’s confirmation to the D.C. Circuit, told ABC News Wednesday that she is keeping an open mind.

-ABC News’ Rachel Scott

Mar 23, 4:52 pm
Judge says ‘I’ll stand on my answer’ on child porn sentencing

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., dove back into the child porn sentencing line of questioning on Wednesday.

Jackson told Hawley, “I am fully aware of the seriousness of this offense and also my obligation to take into account all of the various aspects of the crime, as Congress has required me to do. And I made a determination seriously in each case.”

Hawley asked the judge, “Why didn’t you apply the enhancements as they were asked for?”

Jackson responded, “Senator, I’ve answered this question many times from many senators who have asked me, so I’ll stand on what I’ve already said.”

Hawley continued to press her, saying, “But your answer is what? Refresh my memory.”

Jackson stood her ground, replying, “Senator, I’ve answered this question. I’ve explained how the guidelines work and I’ll stand on my answer.”

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., didn’t press Jackson on child porn sentencing. Instead he asked Jackson if she thought law schools were becoming too homogenous — too “liberal or illiberal” with conservatives voices getting “canceled” — and asked if it would be better to have a diverse set of voices from “across the political spectrum,” to which Jackson agreed.

Then, he offered her a compliment.

“You’re going to be a hero. You are already a hero to lots and lots of kids,” he said.

“I suspect you are an advocate for vigorous and robust debate. I don’t see how you might be constrained against saying that because of future cases. I’m gonna just assume we are mostly aligned on this,” he said.

“I think that is a fair assumption,” she replied.

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 4:19 pm
In praising Judge Motley, Jackson sends message on being a ‘trailblazer’

Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., raising the fact that Judge Jackson shares a birthday with Judge Constance Baker Motley, the nation’s first Black woman to serve as a federal judge, asked Jackson to tell women and girls watching the hearings why Jackson said in her opening she stands on the shoulders of Motley and so many others.

“I so admired the fact that she was the first,” Jackson said. “It’s not necessarily easy to be the first, but it is an opportunity to show other people what is possible.”

“When you’re the first it means no one has ever done it before like you — and there may be hundreds, thousands of people who might have wanted that opportunity and thought, ‘I can’t do that because there’s no one there like me,'” Jackson continued.

“Being a trailblazer, whether it’s Judge Motley or Justice Marshall or Justice O’Connor, being a trailblazer is really inspiring, I think,” she added. “And I was always moved by Judge Motley’s experience and think it may even be part of why I moved in this direction.”

Mar 23, 3:57 pm
Democrat puts onus on Congress, not Jackson, to update federal sentencing guidelines

As Republicans continue to question Judge Jackson on her child pornography sentencing, Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., put the onus on Congress to update federal sentencing guidelines judges follow for those cases, which were created before the internet was widely accessible.

Appearing to warn Americans watching along at home, Coons characterized the probing as “unfair” and a “misrepresentation” of Jackson’s record.

“I would simply put for those who are watching and trying to understand what all of this is about, that is an attempt to distract from your broad support, your deep record, your outstanding intellectual and legal credentials that we are taking what is a policy dispute that should be decided by members of the Senate,” Coons said.

“If we want to change the sentencing guidelines to make them mandatory rather than advisory, if we want to change the structure within which a federal judge imposes sentences, we could do that. But to demand that you be held accountable for this practice that is nationwide and is years old, I view, as an unfair misrepresentation of your record,” he added.

Mar 23, 3:53 pm
Biden impressed how Jackson ‘dismantled bad faith conspiracy theories’

President Joe Biden is proud of the “intellect” and “grace” Jackson has displayed during the confirmation hearing, White House principal deputy press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Wednesday.

“The president was also impressed with how she dismantled bad faith conspiracy theories that have been fact checked by major media outlets and experts,” she said.

When asked about allegations that Jackson is a critical race theory proponent, Jean-Pierre repeated some of Jackson’s own defense laid out during the hearing, saying the judge “applies the facts and the law when making decisions on the bench, not academic theory.”

-ABC News’ Armando Tonatiuh Torres-García

Mar 23, 3:41 pm
Cruz, Durbin in heated argument

Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, engaged in a lengthy argument over whether Judge Jackson should answer a question from Cruz regarding the length of a specific sentence in a child pornography case.

“I have spoken at length throughout this hearing about these cases. I have said what I’m going to say, which is I have taken every case seriously. These are very horrible crimes,” she said.

Repeatedly interrupting his former Harvard University classmate and going over his allotted time for questioning, Cruz challenged Jackson that he was asking about a specific case, prompting Durbin to jump in and admonish him.

“Senator, would you please let her respond?” Durbin said.

“No, not if she’s not going to answer my question,” Cruz replied.

“Senator, I did not say I’m not going to answer,” Jackson offered at another point.

“I’ll just say to the judge, there’s no point responding. He’s going to interrupt you,” Durbin added later, to which Cruz said, “if you want to join her on the bench, you can.”

After Durbin loudly banged the committee gavel, Cruz said, “You can bang it as loud as you want.”

While Jackson has explained several times under questioning how she approaches child pornography cases and defended her sentences, Cruz refused to back down and added to Durbin, “Apparently, you are very afraid of the American people hearing the answer the question.”

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 3:12 pm
Jackson says she would recuse herself from hearing Harvard affirmative action case

When Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, raised the Supreme Court taking up an affirmative action case next term involving Harvard University, and asked if she would recuse herself from the case since she sits on Harvard’s Board of Overseers, Judge Jackson said that was her plan, if confirmed.

Cruz went on to press Jackson about why she couldn’t define what a woman is when Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., asked her to do so on Tuesday night.

“I think you are the only Supreme Court nominee in history who is not able to answer the question, ‘what is a woman?'” Cruz said, though it appears she’s the first nominee to also be asked the question. “As a judge, how would you determine if a plaintiff had Article III standing to challenge a gender-based rule regulation policy without being able to determine what a woman was?”

“So, senator, I know that I’m a woman, and I know that Senator Blackburn is a woman. The woman I admire most in the world is in the room today, my mother. It sounded as though the question…” Jackson replied, before Cruz asked her again in a different way.

“Senator, the fact that you are asking me about who has the ability to bring lawsuits based on gender, those kinds of issues are working their way through the courts, and I’m not able to comment on them,” she said.

Cruz went on to ask if he could change his identity from a Hispanic man to an Asian man to challenge Harvard University, to which Jackson said, “Senator, you are asking me about hypotheticals.”

“I am asking where you would stand if I identified as an Asian man,” Cruz quipped.

“I would assess standing the way I assess other legal issues, which is to listen to the arguments made by the parties to discern the relative precedents and the Constitutional principles and make a determination,” Jackson said, in an increasingly heated exchange.

Mar 23, 2:45 pm
Jackson continues to lay out federal guidelines for child porn sentences

Continuing a familiar attack line for Republicans on the committee, Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, also tried to drill down on Judge Jackson’s sentences for child pornography offenders, raising the case of a defendant who use a computer to access images, but Jackson, again, defended her record and laid out how she approaches the cases.

Nevertheless, Lee still said he has “grave concerns” about her record.

“Senator, as in every child pornography case that I sentenced, I considered all of the evidence, all of the relevant factors. It is not the same exercise to look at a transcript, to think about guidelines, to not have in front of you the individuals, the victims, the pictures, the circumstances that trial judges have to review in these cases or any cases,” she said.

In addition to evidence and recommendations, she reminded, again, that courts have “under Congress’ authority, the responsibility of using our judgment to make determinations that are ‘sufficient but not greater than necessary’ to comply with the purposes or promote the purposes of punishment, taking into account things like unwarranted sentencing disparities.”

Because the federal sentencing guidelines for child pornography offenses were drafted before the internet age, Jackson has argued judges can’t only look at the number of lewd images when handing down sentences but have several other factors to evaluate.

“It may seem like an easy exercise. It may seem in retrospect when you look back at a few pieces of data, that courts have not done what it is that they’re supposed to do, but what I can assure you, is that I took every one of these cases seriously in my duty and responsibility as a judge — and I made my determinations in light of the seriousness of the offense, the nature and circumstances of the offense, the history and characteristics of the defendant, the need for the sentence imposed to promote various purposes of punishment and all of the other factors that Congress prescribes,” she said.

Mar 23, 1:12 pm
Republican presses Jackson on abortion

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, tried to draw Judge Jackson into a discussion that appeared aimed at whether the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion nationwide could be overturned by the Supreme Court, to which Jackson avoided by noting it’s a question currently before the court involving another case.

“What does viability mean when it comes to an unborn child in your understanding?” he asked.

“Senator, I hesitate to speculate. I know that it is a point in time that the court has identified in terms of when — the standards that apply to regulation of the right,” she said.

“No one suggests that a 20-week-old fetus can live independently outside the mother’s womb, do they?” Cornyn asked.

“Senator, I’m not a biologist,” she replied.

“What I know is that the Supreme Court has tests and standards that it’s applied when it evaluates regulation of the right of a woman to terminate their pregnancy,” she said. “The court has announced that there is a right to terminate, up to the point of viability, subject to the framework of Roe, and there is a pending case that is addressing these issues.”

Cornyn went on to have her confirm that the Constitution does not mention the words “abortion” or “marriage,” after taking issue with the court’s decision on same-sex marriage on Tuesday.

Questioned also about the decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, which ruled the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep a gun in the home, Jackson resisted ranking the precedent with that of Roe v. Wade, as Cornyn asked her to do, and said that all Supreme Court precedents are entitled to respect on an equal basis.

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 12:45 pm
Jackson defends child porn sentences, explains ‘rational’ system set by Congress

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., assailed Judge Jackson over her sentencing of those child pornography defendants and alleged that she fell below the federal recommendation in some cases “because she doesn’t use the enhancements available to her.”

“Folks, what she is saying, the reason she’s always below the recommendation, I think, is because she doesn’t use the enhancements available to her. She takes them off the table. And I think that’s a big mistake, judge. I think that every federal judge out there should make it harder for somebody to go on a computer and view this filth,” Graham told her.

The government’s aforementioned sentencing guidelines, created before the internet was widely available, call for an enhancement on child porn offenses based on the number of images sent by mail were involved, meaning anyone who now is committing the crime online with ability to access or send many more images now gets an automatic stiffer punishment.

Jackson argued that’s unfair for those who use the mail because they get shorter sentences and would mean those who use a computer, even first time offenders, get longer sentences.

“Senator, all I’m trying to explain is that our sentencing system, the system that Congress has created, the system that the sentencing commission is the steward of, is a rational one. It’s a system that is designed to help judges do justice in these terrible circumstances by eliminating unwarranted disparities, by ensuring that the most serious defendants get the longest periods of time in prison,” she said. “What we are trying to do is be rational in our dealing with some of the most horrible kinds of behavior.”

Graham wouldn’t see her side and said he thinks Jackson sentences lower whenever a computer is involved.

“All I can say is, your view of how to deter child pornography is not my view. I think you are doing it wrong and every judge who does what you are doing is making it easier for the children to be exploited,” he said.

After their lengthy exchange, Senate Judiciary Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who had to interrupt Graham several times to allow Jackson to finish, said the onus was on Congress to upgrade the sentencing guidelines, to which Graham agreed.

Notably, the sentences Graham is now taking issue with were on Jackson’s record when he voted last year to confirm her to the nation’s second-highest court.

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 12:05 pm
Graham grills Jackson on undocumented immigrants voting, abortion

After airing his grievances over treatment of a different African American judicial nominee for a different post, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., began his questioning Wednesday by firing off a barrage of policy questions and asking Judge Jackson whether she agreed with them.

His first question to the nominee: “Do you believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote, Judge Jackson?”

“Under our laws, you have to be a citizen of the United States in order to vote,” she replied.

“So the answer would be no?” he asked.

“It’s not consistent with our laws, so the answer is no,” she said.

“Okay,” Graham quipped. “Why don’t they do that in New York?”

“Senator, I’m not aware of the circumstances,” she said.

“Okay, all right, well that’s a good answer. The answer is no,” he said. “Can an unborn child feel pain at 20 weeks in the birthing process?

“Senator, I don’t know,” she said.

Graham asked another question on abortion, which she also said she didn’t know, before Graham added, “That may come before you one day, so just keep an open mind.”

Mar 23, 11:48 am
Jackson speaks to what type of justice she would be

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., gave Judge Jackson the opportunity to address the American people directly on what kind of court justice she would be, “if and when confirmed.”

“What I would hope to bring to the Supreme Court is very similar to what 115 other justices have brought, which is their life experiences, their perspectives,” Jackson said. “And mine include being a trial judge, being an appellate judge, being a public defender, being a member of the sentencing commission, in addition to my being a Black woman, lucky inheritor of the civil rights dream.”

“And in my capacity as a justice, I would do what I’ve done for the past decade, which is to rule from a position of neutrality, to look carefully at the facts and the circumstances of every case, without any agendas, without any attempt to push the law in one direction or the other, to look only at the facts and the circumstances interpreting the law consistent with the Constitution and precedents, and to render rulings that I believe and that I hope that people would have confidence in,” she added.

Earlier, Leahy praised Jackson’s “transparency” and told her she “will become a member of the U.S. Supreme Court.”

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 11:43 am
Senators debate whether Jackson called Bush, Rumsfeld ‘war criminals’

Beginning the second and final round of questioning, Senate Judiciary Chairman Dick Durbin, D-Ill., did not use all of his allotted 20-minutes as Democrats, pleased with Judge Jackson’s performance this week, appear on track to confirm Biden’s first Supreme Court nominee.

Durbin responded to the accusation — made by Sen. John Cornyn of Texas — that Jackson had called former President George W. Bush and former Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld “war criminals” in a legal filing when, as a federal public defender, she represented Guantanamo Bay detainees. Cornyn complained that Durbin on Tuesday had “editorialized” about the filing in her favor after he left the room following his exchange with Jackson.

“Now I don’t understand the difference between calling someone a war criminal and accusing them of war crimes,” Cornyn said at the start of Wednesday’s session.

Later Wednesday, during his turn, Durbin noted Bush and Rumsfeld were named in the lawsuit for alleged torture crimes in their official capacity, said they were never specifically called “war criminals,” and asked Jackson if she’d like to respond.

Without directly addressing the exact language used in the filing and its implications, she reminded the committee that public defenders can’t choose their clients, “yet they have to provide vigorous advocacy. That’s the duty of a lawyer,” she said. “And as a judge now, I see the importance of having lawyers who make arguments, who make allegations.”

“In the context of a habeas petition, especially early in the process of the response to the horrible attacks of 9/11, lawyers were helping the courts to assess the permissible extent of executive authority by making arguments, and we were assigned as public defenders,” she added. “We had very little information because of the confidentiality, or the classified nature of a lot of the record, and as an appellate lawyer, it was my obligation to file habeas petitions on behalf of my clients.”

Mar 23, 10:45 am
Republican presses Jackson on prison release recommendations

Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., questioned Judge Jackson about a case when she was considering a prisoner’s release due to the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.

After reading a line taken out of context from an opinion where she declined the blanket release of inmates, Tillis asked Jackson if her “empathy” and “compassion” could lead her to release criminals.

Jackson noted Tillis was not reading her whole statement and that she decided not to release the defendant in that case. She added that she speaks directly to defendants for public safety and accountability.

“Congress also tells us that one of the purposes of punishment is rehabilitation. My attempts to communicate directly with defendants is about public safety,” she said. “It is to our entire benefit to ensure people who come out stop committing crimes.”

“You have to go away understanding that I am imposing consequences for your decision to engage in criminal behavior,” she added. “I was the one in my sentencing practices who explained those things in an interest of furthering Congress’s direction that we’re supposed to be sentencing people so that they can ultimately be rehabilitated to the benefit of society as a whole.”

Tillis replied that more than half of the people she sentenced have, “statistically speaking,” re-offended and “were back in prison.”

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 10:09 am
Jackson addresses ruling that ‘presidents are not kings’

Addressing limitations on power, Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., raised a ruling by Judge Jackson for the D.C. Circuit Court in 2019, in which she determined that former Trump White House counsel Don McGahn had to comply with a congressional subpoena and wrote, “Presidents are not kings.”

He asked Jackson to explain that observation and what bulwarks in the Constitution protect against abuse of executive power.

“Our constitutional scheme, the design of our government, is erected to prevent tyranny,” Jackson said. “The framers decided after experiencing monarchy, tyranny, and the like, that they were going to create a government that would split the powers of a monarch in several different ways.”

She walked through the separation of powers and called them both “crucial to liberty” and “consistent” with her judicial methodology.

“It is what our country is founded on. And it’s important, as consistent with my judicial methodology, for each branch to operate within their own sphere. That means, for me, that judges can’t make law. Judges shouldn’t be policymakers. That’s a part of our constitutional design, and it prevents our government from being too powerful and encroaching on individual liberty,” she said.

Mar 23, 10:03 am
Jackson talks about family ties to public service

Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., allowed Judge Jackson the opportunity to speak again to her family’s ties to law enforcement and public service as some Republicans have attempted to paint her as “soft on crime” and taken issue with her record defending Guantanamo Bay detainees.

Jackson recalled how after her younger brother graduated from Howard University, he followed in the footsteps of her uncles and became a police officer in Baltimore. In the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, he joined the Army and deployed twice, not as an officer, though he could have with his college degree, but on the frontlines.

“That’s the kind of person my brother is. That’s the kind of service that our family provides, and for me, what that meant was an understanding that to defend our country and its values, we also needed to make sure that when we responded as a country to the terrible attacks on 9/11, we were upholding our constitutional values — that we weren’t allowing the terrorists to win by changing who we are,” she said.

“And so I joined with many lawyers during that time who were helping the courts figure out the limits of executive authority consistent with what the framers have told us is important, the limitations on government,” Jackson continued. “I worked to protect our country. My brother worked on the front lines, and it was all because public service is important to us.”

Mar 23, 9:35 am
Durbin defends Jackson in opening statement

Senate Judiciary Chairman Dick Durbin, D-Ill., using his privilege as chairman, delivered an opening statement to begin Wednesday’s session, coming to the defense of Judge Jackson after he said Republicans unfairly attacked her record on Tuesday.

Durbin said some Republican senators used the hearings as “an opportunity to showcase talking points for the November election” and sought to “put in context” some of their accusations.

Rejecting what he called the “stereotype” that Jackson is “soft on crime,” he raised her endorsements from the Fraternal Order of Police and the International Association of Chiefs of Police and repeated that she is in the “mainstream” of sentencing when it comes to child pornography cases.

“I also think it’s ironic that the senator from Missouri who unleashed this discredited attack refuses to acknowledge that his own choice for a federal judge in the Eastern District of Missouri has done exactly what you did,” Durbin said, referring to an orchestrated attack from Republican Sen. Josh Hawley.

Durbin also defended her record representing Guantanamo detainees which several Republicans took issue with, reminding senators of the 6th Amendment to the Constitution which they serve.

“Your nomination turned out to be a testing ground for conspiracy theories and culture war theories. The more bizarre charges against you and your family, the more the social media scoreboard lit up yesterday,” Durbin said. “I’m sorry that we go to go through this. These are not theories in the mainstream of America but they have been presented here as such.”

“You are a respected, successful woman of color. You’ve been approved three times by this committee for increasingly significant judicial assignments,” he added. “America is ready for this Supreme Court glass ceiling to finally shatter, and you, Ketanji Brown Jackson are the person to do it.”

Mar 23, 9:12 am
Day 2 of questioning kicks off

The Senate Judiciary Committee reconvened just after 9 a.m. Wednesday on Capitol Hill where Judge Jackson will undergo another marathon day of questioning.

While Democrats have the votes to confirm Biden’s high court nominee on their own, Jackson’s final day of questioning could prove critical to the White House goal of securing at least some Republican support and shoring up the court’s credibility.

GOP Sens. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and Lindsey Graham, who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee, voted in favor of Jackson’s confirmation to the D.C. Circuit last June, but after private meetings with Jackson this month, all three have been noncommittal about supporting her again.

The spotlight on a historic nominee — and the court itself during such a consequential term of cases — has also provided the opportunity for both political parties to appeal to key voting constituencies ahead of the midterm campaign season.

Mar 23, 8:46 am
What to expect Wednesday

Judge Jackson faces another round of all-day questions on Wednesday from the Senate Judiciary Committee, where she will need a majority of senators to approve her Supreme Court nomination out of committee before it sees a full floor vote.

Because the committee did not finish its first round of questioning on Tuesday, it will pick back up at 9 a.m. with 30-minute rounds from Democratic Sen. John Ossoff and Republican Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C. Notably, Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., traded spots with Tillis to go Tuesday evening, when she asked the Supreme Court nominee to provide a definition for “woman.”

While Democrats have used the hearings to give Jackson a chance to defend her record and display her personal side, Republicans have so far played to long-running culture wars, with Sen. Ted Cruz asking Biden’s nominee about critical race theory and Sen. Lindsey Graham probing her faith, he said, to make a point about how Democrats scrutinized Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

For the second round of questioning, each of the committee’s 11 Republican and 11 Democratic members will then have up to 20 minutes to question Jackson one on one in order of seniority.

On Thursday, senators can ask questions of the American Bar Association and other outside witnesses.

Mar 23, 8:14 am
Key takeaways from first day of questioning

Judge Jackson took questions for nearly 13 hours Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee — where Democrats hailed her for breaking barriers and Republicans attempted to brand her as “soft on crime” — but Jackson refused to play into political fights and vowed repeatedly to “stay in my lane.”

In several tense exchanges with Republicans on the committee, Jackson defended her record as both a lawyer and a judge.

She called her service as a federal public defender — including defense of accused terrorists held without charge at Guantanamo Bay — an act of “standing up for the constitutional value of representation.” Faced with allegations she was too lenient on child pornography offenders, Jackson stressed that she followed federal sentencing guidelines set by Congress and got emotional when talking about reviewing evidence in what she called “heinous” and “egrigous” crimes.

Jackson also resisted repeated attempts to classify her “judicial philosophy,” claiming she doesn’t have one, but she did lay out a “methodology” she’s developed for approaching each case: proceed from a position of neutrality, evaluate the facts and apply the law to facts in the case.

Asked also about same-sex marriage, abortion and the right to own a gun in the home, Jackson said the Supreme Court has established those rights and that she is bound to stare decisis as a jursist.

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Jeffrey Epstein’s private US Virgin Islands locations up for sale

Jeffrey Epstein’s private US Virgin Islands locations up for sale
Jeffrey Epstein’s private US Virgin Islands locations up for sale
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(NEW YORK) — The executors of the estate of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein have listed for sale the two private Caribbean islands the late financier owned off the east coast of St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands, an attorney for the estate told ABC News on Wednesday.

The asking price: $125 million, according to two sources.

Epstein purchased the private island, Little St. James, in 1998 for about $8 million and established his permanent residence there in 2010, around the time he was released from his first jail sentence in Palm Beach, Florida. He liked to refer to his estate there as “Little St. Jeff’s,” according to testimony that emerged last year during the criminal trial of his former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell.

Epstein later acquired ownership of a larger, neighboring island, Great St. James, and he was in the process of building a new estate there at the time of his arrest in 2019, according to court and property records in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

The Wall St. Journal first reported news of the listing.

The islands are currently encumbered by “criminal activity” liens placed by Denise George, the U.S. Virgin Islands’ attorney general, who in early 2020 filed a civil racketeering lawsuit against the estate. The suit alleges that Epstein created a network of shell companies, charitable organizations and individuals that participated in and conspired with him in a decadeslong pattern of criminal activity tied to alleged sex trafficking of minor girls and young women.

“Epstein, through and in association with defendants, trafficked, raped, sexually assaulted and held captive underage girls and young women at his properties in the Virgin Islands,” the complaint said.

ABC News reported earlier this month that lawyers for the Epstein estate are in settlement talks with the U.S. Virgin Island government. One estate attorney described the two sides as being “extraordinarily close” to reaching a negotiated resolution.

A lawyer for the estate, Daniel Weiner, confirmed to ABC News Wednesday that the properties have been listed for sale. The proceeds of any sale, Weiner said, would be used by the estate “for the resolution of outstanding lawsuits and the regular costs of the Estate’s operations, and will be subject to potential claims by tax authorities, creditors, and other parties.”

The proceeds will be held in liened accounts, Weiner said, pending the resolution of the government’s lawsuit

The estate has previously unloaded two of Epstein’s other properties, his Palm Beach Island seaside home and his Upper East Side Manhattan townhouse. Two other properties, Zorro Ranch in New Mexico and an Avenue Foch apartment in Paris, are also for sale.

The marketing of the islands is being handled by New York firms The Modlin Group and Bespoke Real Estate in partnership with U.S. Virgin Islands-based Christie’s International Real Estate The Saints, Weiner said.

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Kenosha officer accused of kneeling on girl’s neck resigns from school district

Kenosha officer accused of kneeling on girl’s neck resigns from school district
Kenosha officer accused of kneeling on girl’s neck resigns from school district
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(KENOSHA, Wis.) — A police officer in Kenosha, Wisconsin, resigned from his off-duty role at the local school district amid an investigation into the tactics he used to restrain a young girl while stopping a fight in which she was involved.

Officer Shawn Guetschow, who was working part-time as a security officer for the Kenosha Unified School District, came under fire after a viral video appeared to show him putting his knee on the neck of a 12-year-old girl at Lincoln Middle School on March 4, while trying to stop a fight.

Guetschow resigned from his role with the school district on March 15, Tanya Ruder, chief communications officer for the Kenosha Unified School District, confirmed to ABC News.

Kenosha police Lt. Joseph Nosalik confirmed to ABC News on Wednesday that Guetschow is still employed by the police department and is currently on desk duty amid the investigation.

In his resignation letter, a copy of which was obtained by ABC News, Guetschow cited the “mental and emotional strain” that the public attention surrounding the incident has brought on his family, as well as what he says is “the lack of communication and or support” that he has received from the district.

The incident was the subject of a heated discussion at the school board meeting on Tuesday, with some community members calling for the district to suspend its contract with the Kenosha Police Department, while others argued that police officers are needed in school to keep students safe.

The 12-year-old girl’s father, Jerrel Perez, spoke out against the officer’s tactics in a press conference last week and called for criminal charges to be filed against him.

“She’s humiliated. She’s traumatized. Every day I gotta hear, ‘Daddy, I don’t wanna go to school,'” Perez said Wednesday.

“It breaks me, because I wasn’t there to help her,” he added. “I felt helpless.”

A charge of disorderly conduct was referred to juvenile court for both students involved in the fight, police told ABC News.

Attorney Drew DeVinney, who represents the girl and her father, said during a press conference Wednesday that the family plans to take legal action against the police and the school soon.

Ruder told ABC News that the Kenosha Unified School District could not provide any more information.

“As it appears that this incident may lead to litigation, the district will provide no further details at this time,” she said.

A video of the incident taken by one of the students at the school was obtained by ABC News and shows the officer responding to a fight between two students during lunch time in the cafeteria.

The 12-year-old girl, whose name has not been revealed as she is a minor, pushes the officer, and then he pins her to the ground amid shouting from students who have gathered to watch.

The clip is 10 seconds long, and it is unclear what happened before or after.

“We continue our investigation, paying careful attention to the entire scope of the incident. We have no further update at this time,” the Kenosha Police Department said in a statement Saturday.

Last week, the Kenosha Unified School District released a redacted version of school surveillance video of the incident.

In the video, Guetschow pushes the girl’s head to the ground and then appears to kneel on her neck for over 20 seconds.

Perez expressed outrage over the police officer’s tactics and compared the image to George Floyd, the Minnesota man who was killed when a police officer placed a knee on his neck for nearly nine minutes.

Amid a push for police reform after Floyd’s death, Wisconsin banned the use of police chokeholds in June 2021 except in life-threatening situations or in situations where police officers have to defend themselves. Chokeholds include various police neck restraints.

DeVinney told ABC News earlier this month that the girl “suffered injuries to her head and neck and is currently receiving medical treatment.”

He said that since chokeholds have been banned in Wisconsin, the “incident should never have occurred.”

“The family hopes to find out why this happened, so that it does not happen again to anyone else’s child,” he added.

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Arrest made in mass shooting at Arkansas car show that killed 1, injured 26

Arrest made in mass shooting at Arkansas car show that killed 1, injured 26
Arrest made in mass shooting at Arkansas car show that killed 1, injured 26
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(DUMAS, Arkansas) — A man was arrested in connection with a mass shooting at an Arkansas car show that left more than two dozen people injured and one dead.

Brandon Deandra Knight, 22, of Jacksonville, Arkansas, was arrested after being released from the hospital Wednesday morning, state police said. It was unclear why he was hospitalized.

He was charged with first-degree battery and aggravated assault, police said. He is being held at the Dumas City Jail and will make his first court appearance Thursday. It is unclear if he has an attorney.

“The state police investigation remains in an active status and no further information regarding the arrest is available at this hour,” the Arkansas State Police, which is leading the investigation into the shooting, said in a statement.

The incident occurred Saturday evening in a parking lot in Dumas, about 90 miles southeast of Little Rock, when gunfire “swept across a crowd attending a local car show,” state police said.

Arkansas State Police, in addition to other state and county authorities, soon arrived at the scene, and first responders transported the injured to five different Arkansas hospitals.

Twenty-six people were wounded by gunfire, including five children ranging in age from 19 months to 11 years old, state police said. Additionally, one person, identified by police as 23-year-old Cameron Shaffer of Jacksonville, died at the Dumas hospital.

Police initially said 28 people were shot in the incident, including the fatality, though later amended that number to 27.

Authorities said earlier this week they believed that two people were involved in a gunfight, and that a mass shooting was not intended. There was no prior intelligence that violence was to take place at the car show before the shooting took place, authorities said.

There is no indication that Shaffer was involved in the gunfight, state police said.

Earlier this week, authorities indicated they were looking for two suspects in the shooting and have been urging anyone with information about the events leading up to the shooting to come forward.

The Dumas Police Department arrested one person who left the scene and fit the description of one of the suspects on “unrelated charges,” Col. Bill Bryant of the Arkansas State Police said during a press briefing Sunday.

“It’s shocking,” he told reporters. “We have a small community, a farming community in Dumas — 5,000 people. And then we have an incident of multi victims. It’s just, you don’t expect that from small-town Arkansas.”

ABC News’ Victoria Arancio contributed to this report.

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US airline CEOs call on Biden to lift mask mandate on travel

US airline CEOs call on Biden to lift mask mandate on travel
US airline CEOs call on Biden to lift mask mandate on travel
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(WASHINGTON) — A group of CEOs from all major U.S. airlines called on President Joe Biden to lift the federal mask mandate on public transportation.

The group — which includes the heads of American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and United Airlines — said current restrictions such as international predeparture testing requirements and the federal mask mandate are “no longer aligned with the realities of the current epidemiological environment.”

The group cited increased vaccination rates and the lifting of such restrictions in other countries as reasons to do away with the COVID-era policies.

“It makes no sense that people are still required to wear masks on airplanes, yet are allowed to congregate in crowded restaurants, schools and at sporting events without masks, despite none of these venues having the protective air filtration system that aircraft do,” the letter said.

In addition, the group said the burden of enforcing the mask mandate has fallen on their employees, saying, “This is not a function they are trained to perform and subjects them to daily challenges by frustrated customers. This in turn takes a toll on their own well-being.”

The number of unruly passengers on planes spiked during the pandemic. This year alone, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has received 961 reports of unruly passengers – 635 of which were related to face masks.

The current federal mask mandate on public transportation is set to expire April 18, the Biden administration announced earlier this month.

The letter was signed by CEOs from Alaska Air, Atlas Air, American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, FedEx Express, Hawaiian Airlines, JetBlue Airways, Southwest Airlines, United Airlines, UPS Airlines and Airlines for America.

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Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmation hearings live updates: Judge sheds tears as Booker invokes ancestors

Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmation hearings live updates: Judge fends off attacks on 2nd day of questioning
Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmation hearings live updates: Judge fends off attacks on 2nd day of questioning
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(WASHINGTON) — Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black woman nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court, faces another day of questions Wednesday after over 12 hours of grilling Tuesday on Day 2 of her four-day confirmation hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Here is how the news is developing Wednesday. Check back for updates.

Mar 23, 5:45 pm
Judge tears up as Booker invokes ancestors

Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., called out Republicans for accusing Jackson of being soft on sentencing in child porn cases, noting that Jackson wasn’t questioned in this way when she was appointed last year to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

Booker said to Jackson, “You were put on a court, that I’m told, is considered like the second most powerful court in our land. And you were passed with bipartisan support. Nobody brought it up then. Did they not do their homework?”

The Republicans’ “allegations appear meritless to the point of demagoguery,” Booker said.

Booker, overcome with emotion, said to Jackson when he looks at her he sees his mom and cousins, noting one of his cousins was sitting behind her at the hearing. “She had to have your back. I see my ancestors and yours,” he said.

Jackson wiped away tears as Booker spoke.

Booker stressed, “Nobody is going to steal that joy. You have earned this spot. You are worthy.”

He later added: “God has got you.”

Mar 23, 5:23 pm
Graham says ‘stay tuned’ on his support for Jackson

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who supported Jackson’s confirmation to the D.C. Circuit but has been combative at times during questioning, said to “stay tuned” about whether he would support her this time around.

“The difference between the two jobs is she can make policy with this job — she can change the law. The D.C. Circuit, she’s sort of bound by what the Supreme Court [has] done. So just say tuned,” he said.

Graham continued his attacks on Jackson on Wednesday, accusing her of trying to “run out the clock.”

“I like Judge Jackson. I don’t think she’s sympathetic as a person to child pornography, but I think her sentencing regime doesn’t create deterrence,” he said.

Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, who also supported Jackson’s confirmation to the D.C. Circuit, told ABC News Wednesday that she is keeping an open mind.

-ABC News’ Rachel Scott

Mar 23, 4:52 pm
Judge says ‘I’ll stand on my answer’ on child porn sentencing

Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., dove back into the child porn sentencing line of questioning on Wednesday.

Jackson told Hawley, “I am fully aware of the seriousness of this offense and also my obligation to take into account all of the various aspects of the crime, as Congress has required me to do. And I made a determination seriously in each case.”

Hawley asked the judge, “Why didn’t you apply the enhancements as they were asked for?”

Jackson responded, “Senator, I’ve answered this question many times from many senators who have asked me, so I’ll stand on what I’ve already said.”

Hawley continued to press her, saying, “But your answer is what? Refresh my memory.”

Jackson stood her ground, replying, “Senator, I’ve answered this question. I’ve explained how the guidelines work and I’ll stand on my answer.”

Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., didn’t press Jackson on child porn sentencing. Instead he asked Jackson if she thought law schools were becoming too homogenous — too “liberal or illiberal” with conservatives voices getting “canceled” — and asked if it would be better to have a diverse set of voices from “across the political spectrum,” to which Jackson agreed.

Then, he offered her a compliment.

“You’re going to be a hero. You are already a hero to lots and lots of kids,” he said.

“I suspect you are an advocate for vigorous and robust debate. I don’t see how you might be constrained against saying that because of future cases. I’m gonna just assume we are mostly aligned on this,” he said.

“I think that is a fair assumption,” she replied.

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 4:19 pm
In praising Judge Motley, Jackson sends message on being a ‘trailblazer’

Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., raising the fact that Judge Jackson shares a birthday with Judge Constance Baker Motley, the nation’s first Black woman to serve as a federal judge, asked Jackson to tell women and girls watching the hearings why Jackson said in her opening she stands on the shoulders of Motley and so many others.

“I so admired the fact that she was the first,” Jackson said. “It’s not necessarily easy to be the first, but it is an opportunity to show other people what is possible.”

“When you’re the first it means no one has ever done it before like you — and there may be hundreds, thousands of people who might have wanted that opportunity and thought, ‘I can’t do that because there’s no one there like me,'” Jackson continued.

“Being a trailblazer, whether it’s Judge Motley or Justice Marshall or Justice O’Connor, being a trailblazer is really inspiring, I think,” she added. “And I was always moved by Judge Motley’s experience and think it may even be part of why I moved in this direction.”

Mar 23, 3:57 pm
Democrat puts onus on Congress, not Jackson, to update federal sentencing guidelines

As Republicans continue to question Judge Jackson on her child pornography sentencing, Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., put the onus on Congress to update federal sentencing guidelines judges follow for those cases, which were created before the internet was widely accessible.

Appearing to warn Americans watching along at home, Coons characterized the probing as “unfair” and a “misrepresentation” of Jackson’s record.

“I would simply put for those who are watching and trying to understand what all of this is about, that is an attempt to distract from your broad support, your deep record, your outstanding intellectual and legal credentials that we are taking what is a policy dispute that should be decided by members of the Senate,” Coons said.

“If we want to change the sentencing guidelines to make them mandatory rather than advisory, if we want to change the structure within which a federal judge imposes sentences, we could do that. But to demand that you be held accountable for this practice that is nationwide and is years old, I view, as an unfair misrepresentation of your record,” he added.

Mar 23, 3:53 pm
Biden impressed how Jackson ‘dismantled bad faith conspiracy theories’

President Joe Biden is proud of the “intellect” and “grace” Jackson has displayed during the confirmation hearing, White House principal deputy press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said Wednesday.

“The president was also impressed with how she dismantled bad faith conspiracy theories that have been fact checked by major media outlets and experts,” she said.

When asked about allegations that Jackson is a critical race theory proponent, Jean-Pierre repeated some of Jackson’s own defense laid out during the hearing, saying the judge “applies the facts and the law when making decisions on the bench, not academic theory.”

-ABC News’ Armando Tonatiuh Torres-García

Mar 23, 3:41 pm
Cruz, Durbin in heated argument

Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, engaged in a lengthy argument over whether Judge Jackson should answer a question from Cruz regarding the length of a specific sentence in a child pornography case.

“I have spoken at length throughout this hearing about these cases. I have said what I’m going to say, which is I have taken every case seriously. These are very horrible crimes,” she said.

Repeatedly interrupting his former Harvard University classmate and going over his allotted time for questioning, Cruz challenged Jackson that he was asking about a specific case, prompting Durbin to jump in and admonish him.

“Senator, would you please let her respond?” Durbin said.

“No, not if she’s not going to answer my question,” Cruz replied.

“Senator, I did not say I’m not going to answer,” Jackson offered at another point.

“I’ll just say to the judge, there’s no point responding. He’s going to interrupt you,” Durbin added later, to which Cruz said, “if you want to join her on the bench, you can.”

After Durbin loudly banged the committee gavel, Cruz said, “You can bang it as loud as you want.”

While Jackson has explained several times under questioning how she approaches child pornography cases and defended her sentences, Cruz refused to back down and added to Durbin, “Apparently, you are very afraid of the American people hearing the answer the question.”

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 3:12 pm
Jackson says she would recuse herself from hearing Harvard affirmative action case

When Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, raised the Supreme Court taking up an affirmative action case next term involving Harvard University, and asked if she would recuse herself from the case since she sits on Harvard’s Board of Overseers, Judge Jackson said that was her plan, if confirmed.

Cruz went on to press Jackson about why she couldn’t define what a woman is when Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., asked her to do so on Tuesday night.

“I think you are the only Supreme Court nominee in history who is not able to answer the question, ‘what is a woman?'” Cruz said, though it appears she’s the first nominee to also be asked the question. “As a judge, how would you determine if a plaintiff had Article III standing to challenge a gender-based rule regulation policy without being able to determine what a woman was?”

“So, senator, I know that I’m a woman, and I know that Senator Blackburn is a woman. The woman I admire most in the world is in the room today, my mother. It sounded as though the question…” Jackson replied, before Cruz asked her again in a different way.

“Senator, the fact that you are asking me about who has the ability to bring lawsuits based on gender, those kinds of issues are working their way through the courts, and I’m not able to comment on them,” she said.

Cruz went on to ask if he could change his identity from a Hispanic man to an Asian man to challenge Harvard University, to which Jackson said, “Senator, you are asking me about hypotheticals.”

“I am asking where you would stand if I identified as an Asian man,” Cruz quipped.

“I would assess standing the way I assess other legal issues, which is to listen to the arguments made by the parties to discern the relative precedents and the Constitutional principles and make a determination,” Jackson said, in an increasingly heated exchange.

Mar 23, 2:45 pm
Jackson continues to lay out federal guidelines for child porn sentences

Continuing a familiar attack line for Republicans on the committee, Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, also tried to drill down on Judge Jackson’s sentences for child pornography offenders, raising the case of a defendant who use a computer to access images, but Jackson, again, defended her record and laid out how she approaches the cases.

Nevertheless, Lee still said he has “grave concerns” about her record.

“Senator, as in every child pornography case that I sentenced, I considered all of the evidence, all of the relevant factors. It is not the same exercise to look at a transcript, to think about guidelines, to not have in front of you the individuals, the victims, the pictures, the circumstances that trial judges have to review in these cases or any cases,” she said.

In addition to evidence and recommendations, she reminded, again, that courts have “under Congress’ authority, the responsibility of using our judgment to make determinations that are ‘sufficient but not greater than necessary’ to comply with the purposes or promote the purposes of punishment, taking into account things like unwarranted sentencing disparities.”

Because the federal sentencing guidelines for child pornography offenses were drafted before the internet age, Jackson has argued judges can’t only look at the number of lewd images when handing down sentences but have several other factors to evaluate.

“It may seem like an easy exercise. It may seem in retrospect when you look back at a few pieces of data, that courts have not done what it is that they’re supposed to do, but what I can assure you, is that I took every one of these cases seriously in my duty and responsibility as a judge — and I made my determinations in light of the seriousness of the offense, the nature and circumstances of the offense, the history and characteristics of the defendant, the need for the sentence imposed to promote various purposes of punishment and all of the other factors that Congress prescribes,” she said.

Mar 23, 1:12 pm
Republican presses Jackson on abortion

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, tried to draw Judge Jackson into a discussion that appeared aimed at whether the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion nationwide could be overturned by the Supreme Court, to which Jackson avoided by noting it’s a question currently before the court involving another case.

“What does viability mean when it comes to an unborn child in your understanding?” he asked.

“Senator, I hesitate to speculate. I know that it is a point in time that the court has identified in terms of when — the standards that apply to regulation of the right,” she said.

“No one suggests that a 20-week-old fetus can live independently outside the mother’s womb, do they?” Cornyn asked.

“Senator, I’m not a biologist,” she replied.

“What I know is that the Supreme Court has tests and standards that it’s applied when it evaluates regulation of the right of a woman to terminate their pregnancy,” she said. “The court has announced that there is a right to terminate, up to the point of viability, subject to the framework of Roe, and there is a pending case that is addressing these issues.”

Cornyn went on to have her confirm that the Constitution does not mention the words “abortion” or “marriage,” after taking issue with the court’s decision on same-sex marriage on Tuesday.

Questioned also about the decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, which ruled the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep a gun in the home, Jackson resisted ranking the precedent with that of Roe v. Wade, as Cornyn asked her to do, and said that all Supreme Court precedents are entitled to respect on an equal basis.

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 12:45 pm
Jackson defends child porn sentences, explains ‘rational’ system set by Congress

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., assailed Judge Jackson over her sentencing of those child pornography defendants and alleged that she fell below the federal recommendation in some cases “because she doesn’t use the enhancements available to her.”

“Folks, what she is saying, the reason she’s always below the recommendation, I think, is because she doesn’t use the enhancements available to her. She takes them off the table. And I think that’s a big mistake, judge. I think that every federal judge out there should make it harder for somebody to go on a computer and view this filth,” Graham told her.

The government’s aforementioned sentencing guidelines, created before the internet was widely available, call for an enhancement on child porn offenses based on the number of images sent by mail were involved, meaning anyone who now is committing the crime online with ability to access or send many more images now gets an automatic stiffer punishment.

Jackson argued that’s unfair for those who use the mail because they get shorter sentences and would mean those who use a computer, even first time offenders, get longer sentences.

“Senator, all I’m trying to explain is that our sentencing system, the system that Congress has created, the system that the sentencing commission is the steward of, is a rational one. It’s a system that is designed to help judges do justice in these terrible circumstances by eliminating unwarranted disparities, by ensuring that the most serious defendants get the longest periods of time in prison,” she said. “What we are trying to do is be rational in our dealing with some of the most horrible kinds of behavior.”

Graham wouldn’t see her side and said he thinks Jackson sentences lower whenever a computer is involved.

“All I can say is, your view of how to deter child pornography is not my view. I think you are doing it wrong and every judge who does what you are doing is making it easier for the children to be exploited,” he said.

After their lengthy exchange, Senate Judiciary Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who had to interrupt Graham several times to allow Jackson to finish, said the onus was on Congress to upgrade the sentencing guidelines, to which Graham agreed.

Notably, the sentences Graham is now taking issue with were on Jackson’s record when he voted last year to confirm her to the nation’s second-highest court.

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 12:05 pm
Graham grills Jackson on undocumented immigrants voting, abortion

After airing his grievances over treatment of a different African American judicial nominee for a different post, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., began his questioning Wednesday by firing off a barrage of policy questions and asking Judge Jackson whether she agreed with them.

His first question to the nominee: “Do you believe illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote, Judge Jackson?”

“Under our laws, you have to be a citizen of the United States in order to vote,” she replied.

“So the answer would be no?” he asked.

“It’s not consistent with our laws, so the answer is no,” she said.

“Okay,” Graham quipped. “Why don’t they do that in New York?”

“Senator, I’m not aware of the circumstances,” she said.

“Okay, all right, well that’s a good answer. The answer is no,” he said. “Can an unborn child feel pain at 20 weeks in the birthing process?

“Senator, I don’t know,” she said.

Graham asked another question on abortion, which she also said she didn’t know, before Graham added, “That may come before you one day, so just keep an open mind.”

Mar 23, 11:48 am
Jackson speaks to what type of justice she would be

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., gave Judge Jackson the opportunity to address the American people directly on what kind of court justice she would be, “if and when confirmed.”

“What I would hope to bring to the Supreme Court is very similar to what 115 other justices have brought, which is their life experiences, their perspectives,” Jackson said. “And mine include being a trial judge, being an appellate judge, being a public defender, being a member of the sentencing commission, in addition to my being a Black woman, lucky inheritor of the civil rights dream.”

“And in my capacity as a justice, I would do what I’ve done for the past decade, which is to rule from a position of neutrality, to look carefully at the facts and the circumstances of every case, without any agendas, without any attempt to push the law in one direction or the other, to look only at the facts and the circumstances interpreting the law consistent with the Constitution and precedents, and to render rulings that I believe and that I hope that people would have confidence in,” she added.

Earlier, Leahy praised Jackson’s “transparency” and told her she “will become a member of the U.S. Supreme Court.”

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 11:43 am
Senators debate whether Jackson called Bush, Rumsfeld ‘war criminals’

Beginning the second and final round of questioning, Senate Judiciary Chairman Dick Durbin, D-Ill., did not use all of his allotted 20-minutes as Democrats, pleased with Judge Jackson’s performance this week, appear on track to confirm Biden’s first Supreme Court nominee.

Durbin responded to the accusation — made by Sen. John Cornyn of Texas — that Jackson had called former President George W. Bush and former Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld “war criminals” in a legal filing when, as a federal public defender, she represented Guantanamo Bay detainees. Cornyn complained that Durbin on Tuesday had “editorialized” about the filing in her favor after he left the room following his exchange with Jackson.

“Now I don’t understand the difference between calling someone a war criminal and accusing them of war crimes,” Cornyn said at the start of Wednesday’s session.

Later Wednesday, during his turn, Durbin noted Bush and Rumsfeld were named in the lawsuit for alleged torture crimes in their official capacity, said they were never specifically called “war criminals,” and asked Jackson if she’d like to respond.

Without directly addressing the exact language used in the filing and its implications, she reminded the committee that public defenders can’t choose their clients, “yet they have to provide vigorous advocacy. That’s the duty of a lawyer,” she said. “And as a judge now, I see the importance of having lawyers who make arguments, who make allegations.”

“In the context of a habeas petition, especially early in the process of the response to the horrible attacks of 9/11, lawyers were helping the courts to assess the permissible extent of executive authority by making arguments, and we were assigned as public defenders,” she added. “We had very little information because of the confidentiality, or the classified nature of a lot of the record, and as an appellate lawyer, it was my obligation to file habeas petitions on behalf of my clients.”

Mar 23, 10:45 am
Republican presses Jackson on prison release recommendations

Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., questioned Judge Jackson about a case when she was considering a prisoner’s release due to the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.

After reading a line taken out of context from an opinion where she declined the blanket release of inmates, Tillis asked Jackson if her “empathy” and “compassion” could lead her to release criminals.

Jackson noted Tillis was not reading her whole statement and that she decided not to release the defendant in that case. She added that she speaks directly to defendants for public safety and accountability.

“Congress also tells us that one of the purposes of punishment is rehabilitation. My attempts to communicate directly with defendants is about public safety,” she said. “It is to our entire benefit to ensure people who come out stop committing crimes.”

“You have to go away understanding that I am imposing consequences for your decision to engage in criminal behavior,” she added. “I was the one in my sentencing practices who explained those things in an interest of furthering Congress’s direction that we’re supposed to be sentencing people so that they can ultimately be rehabilitated to the benefit of society as a whole.”

Tillis replied that more than half of the people she sentenced have, “statistically speaking,” re-offended and “were back in prison.”

-ABC News’ Trish Turner

Mar 23, 10:09 am
Jackson addresses ruling that ‘presidents are not kings’

Addressing limitations on power, Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., raised a ruling by Judge Jackson for the D.C. Circuit Court in 2019, in which she determined that former Trump White House counsel Don McGahn had to comply with a congressional subpoena and wrote, “Presidents are not kings.”

He asked Jackson to explain that observation and what bulwarks in the Constitution protect against abuse of executive power.

“Our constitutional scheme, the design of our government, is erected to prevent tyranny,” Jackson said. “The framers decided after experiencing monarchy, tyranny, and the like, that they were going to create a government that would split the powers of a monarch in several different ways.”

She walked through the separation of powers and called them both “crucial to liberty” and “consistent” with her judicial methodology.

“It is what our country is founded on. And it’s important, as consistent with my judicial methodology, for each branch to operate within their own sphere. That means, for me, that judges can’t make law. Judges shouldn’t be policymakers. That’s a part of our constitutional design, and it prevents our government from being too powerful and encroaching on individual liberty,” she said.

Mar 23, 10:03 am
Jackson talks about family ties to public service

Sen. Jon Ossoff, D-Ga., allowed Judge Jackson the opportunity to speak again to her family’s ties to law enforcement and public service as some Republicans have attempted to paint her as “soft on crime” and taken issue with her record defending Guantanamo Bay detainees.

Jackson recalled how after her younger brother graduated from Howard University, he followed in the footsteps of her uncles and became a police officer in Baltimore. In the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, he joined the Army and deployed twice, not as an officer, though he could have with his college degree, but on the frontlines.

“That’s the kind of person my brother is. That’s the kind of service that our family provides, and for me, what that meant was an understanding that to defend our country and its values, we also needed to make sure that when we responded as a country to the terrible attacks on 9/11, we were upholding our constitutional values — that we weren’t allowing the terrorists to win by changing who we are,” she said.

“And so I joined with many lawyers during that time who were helping the courts figure out the limits of executive authority consistent with what the framers have told us is important, the limitations on government,” Jackson continued. “I worked to protect our country. My brother worked on the front lines, and it was all because public service is important to us.”

Mar 23, 9:35 am
Durbin defends Jackson in opening statement

Senate Judiciary Chairman Dick Durbin, D-Ill., using his privilege as chairman, delivered an opening statement to begin Wednesday’s session, coming to the defense of Judge Jackson after he said Republicans unfairly attacked her record on Tuesday.

Durbin said some Republican senators used the hearings as “an opportunity to showcase talking points for the November election” and sought to “put in context” some of their accusations.

Rejecting what he called the “stereotype” that Jackson is “soft on crime,” he raised her endorsements from the Fraternal Order of Police and the International Association of Chiefs of Police and repeated that she is in the “mainstream” of sentencing when it comes to child pornography cases.

“I also think it’s ironic that the senator from Missouri who unleashed this discredited attack refuses to acknowledge that his own choice for a federal judge in the Eastern District of Missouri has done exactly what you did,” Durbin said, referring to an orchestrated attack from Republican Sen. Josh Hawley.

Durbin also defended her record representing Guantanamo detainees which several Republicans took issue with, reminding senators of the 6th Amendment to the Constitution which they serve.

“Your nomination turned out to be a testing ground for conspiracy theories and culture war theories. The more bizarre charges against you and your family, the more the social media scoreboard lit up yesterday,” Durbin said. “I’m sorry that we go to go through this. These are not theories in the mainstream of America but they have been presented here as such.”

“You are a respected, successful woman of color. You’ve been approved three times by this committee for increasingly significant judicial assignments,” he added. “America is ready for this Supreme Court glass ceiling to finally shatter, and you, Ketanji Brown Jackson are the person to do it.”

Mar 23, 9:12 am
Day 2 of questioning kicks off

The Senate Judiciary Committee reconvened just after 9 a.m. Wednesday on Capitol Hill where Judge Jackson will undergo another marathon day of questioning.

While Democrats have the votes to confirm Biden’s high court nominee on their own, Jackson’s final day of questioning could prove critical to the White House goal of securing at least some Republican support and shoring up the court’s credibility.

GOP Sens. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski and Lindsey Graham, who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee, voted in favor of Jackson’s confirmation to the D.C. Circuit last June, but after private meetings with Jackson this month, all three have been noncommittal about supporting her again.

The spotlight on a historic nominee — and the court itself during such a consequential term of cases — has also provided the opportunity for both political parties to appeal to key voting constituencies ahead of the midterm campaign season.

Mar 23, 8:46 am
What to expect Wednesday

Judge Jackson faces another round of all-day questions on Wednesday from the Senate Judiciary Committee, where she will need a majority of senators to approve her Supreme Court nomination out of committee before it sees a full floor vote.

Because the committee did not finish its first round of questioning on Tuesday, it will pick back up at 9 a.m. with 30-minute rounds from Democratic Sen. John Ossoff and Republican Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C. Notably, Sen. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., traded spots with Tillis to go Tuesday evening, when she asked the Supreme Court nominee to provide a definition for “woman.”

While Democrats have used the hearings to give Jackson a chance to defend her record and display her personal side, Republicans have so far played to long-running culture wars, with Sen. Ted Cruz asking Biden’s nominee about critical race theory and Sen. Lindsey Graham probing her faith, he said, to make a point about how Democrats scrutinized Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

For the second round of questioning, each of the committee’s 11 Republican and 11 Democratic members will then have up to 20 minutes to question Jackson one on one in order of seniority.

On Thursday, senators can ask questions of the American Bar Association and other outside witnesses.

Mar 23, 8:14 am
Key takeaways from first day of questioning

Judge Jackson took questions for nearly 13 hours Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee — where Democrats hailed her for breaking barriers and Republicans attempted to brand her as “soft on crime” — but Jackson refused to play into political fights and vowed repeatedly to “stay in my lane.”

In several tense exchanges with Republicans on the committee, Jackson defended her record as both a lawyer and a judge.

She called her service as a federal public defender — including defense of accused terrorists held without charge at Guantanamo Bay — an act of “standing up for the constitutional value of representation.” Faced with allegations she was too lenient on child pornography offenders, Jackson stressed that she followed federal sentencing guidelines set by Congress and got emotional when talking about reviewing evidence in what she called “heinous” and “egrigous” crimes.

Jackson also resisted repeated attempts to classify her “judicial philosophy,” claiming she doesn’t have one, but she did lay out a “methodology” she’s developed for approaching each case: proceed from a position of neutrality, evaluate the facts and apply the law to facts in the case.

Asked also about same-sex marriage, abortion and the right to own a gun in the home, Jackson said the Supreme Court has established those rights and that she is bound to stare decisis as a jursist.

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More than 60 tornadoes tear through 5 states in 2 days

More than 60 tornadoes tear through 5 states in 2 days
More than 60 tornadoes tear through 5 states in 2 days
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(NEW ORLEANS) — A deadly tornado tore through homes and knocked out power in the New Orleans area on Tuesday night, killing one person and injuring multiple others, authorities said.

The twister was one of more than 60 tornadoes reported in five southeastern states in two days, officials said.

A funnel cloud caused damage in St. Bernard’s Parish, in the eastern part of New Orleans, including the Ninth Ward, Chalmette and Arabi areas of the parish. It hit at around 7:30 p.m. local time Tuesday, according to the National Weather Service.

One person was killed in Arabi, St. Bernard’s Parish President Guy McInnis told ABC News.

“It’s pretty bad. We have about a two-mile stretch of where this tornado tore through our community,” McInnis said in an interview Wednesday on “Good Morning America.”

McInnis said that in addition to one death in Arabi, seven other people in the community were hospitalized with injuries. He called it a “miracle” that more people weren’t killed or injured given the swath of destruction.

“We have houses that were lifted up and now they sit in the middle of the street,” McInnis said. “We have, you know, houses in an area that are totally leveled.”

The National Weather Service said it is surveying the damage in St. Benard’s Parish and that a preliminary review of the destruction indicates the tornado that hit the area was at least an EF-3, the third strongest twister on the Enhanced Fujita Scale. EF-3 tornadoes usually pack winds of more than 130 mph.

McInnis said rescue crews searched the hard-hit areas overnight and again on Wednesday.

“We have no reports of anyone missing at this time and no one trapped in homes,” McInnis said.

Raymond Theriot, chief investigator of the St. Bernard Parish Coroner’s Office, confirmed to ABC News that Connor Lambert, 25, died after the tornado hit his home in Arabi. Authorities later found him a block away from his home, and the cause of death was multiple blunt force trauma, according to Theriot.

A second suspected tornado touched down in Lacombe in Tammany Parrish, across Lake Pontchartrain from New Orleans, according to the National Weather Service. There were no immediate reports of injuries or damage to homes in Lacombe.

After touring Arabi and St. Bernard Parish on Wednesday, Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards described the damage as “tremendous,” adding that “we can be very thankful that there was only one death.”

Early spring storms churned up tornadoes in Texas and Oklahoma one day earlier. A 73-year-old woman was killed while another 10 people were injured in Grayson County, Texas, according to Sarah Somers, the director of the county’s office of emergency.

On Monday and Tuesday, a total of 63 tornadoes were reported in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and Oklahoma.

The strongest tornado hit Monday night in Jacksboro, Texas, and was rated as a strong EF-3 twister with winds reaching 150 mph, according to the National Weather Service. An EF-2 tornado packing 130 mph winds was confirmed in Sherwood Shores north of Dallas on Monday, according to the weather service.

ABC News’ Matt Foster, Jim Ryan and Victoria Arancio contributed to this report.

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Idaho governor signs bill banning abortion after 6 weeks modeled after Texas law

Idaho governor signs bill banning abortion after 6 weeks modeled after Texas law
Idaho governor signs bill banning abortion after 6 weeks modeled after Texas law
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(BOISE, Idaho) — Idaho became the first U.S. state to enact a law modeled after the recent legislation passed in Texas that bans abortions after six weeks, before many women know they’re pregnant.

The new law also allows the father, grandparents, siblings, uncles or aunts of the fetus to sue a medical provider who performs the procedure.

The bill passed the state House of Representatives and Senate earlier this month and was signed by Republican Gov. Brad Little on Wednesday.

“I stand in solidarity with all Idahoans who seek to protect the lives of preborn babies,” Little wrote in a letter to Lt. Gov. Janice McGeachin, president of the state Senate.

However, he expressed worries about whether the law is constitutional and whether it would stand challenges in court.

“While I support the pro-life policy in this legislation, I fear the novel civil enforcement mechanism will, in short order, be proven both unconstitutional and unwise,” Little wrote.

The law will go into effect, but opponents said they are already preparing to challenge the bill.

Family members can sue for a minimum of $20,000 within four years of an abortion. While a rapist wouldn’t be allowed to sue, their family members could.

Kim Clark, senior attorney at Legal Voice — a non-profit organization advocating for the legal rights of women, girls and LGBTQ people in the Northwest — said this could lead to women in abusive relationships being further harassed by their partners.

“This essentially makes the state complicit in intimate partner violence,” Clark told ABC News in an interview last week. “Allowing a member of the person’s family to bring a claim, that could include an abuser where the survivor hasn’t reported the assault.”

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DNC leaders push to change presidential nominating schedule, putting Iowa’s first-state status in peril

DNC leaders push to change presidential nominating schedule, putting Iowa’s first-state status in peril
DNC leaders push to change presidential nominating schedule, putting Iowa’s first-state status in peril
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(WASHINGTON) — National Democrats are pushing to alter the party’s presidential nomination calendar, with senior party officials proposing a draft resolution that puts Iowa’s first-in-the-nation status in jeopardy.

The order of the early states is highly determinative in which candidate becomes the Democratic nominee.

The proposal, co-sponsored by DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee co-Chairs Jim Roosevelt and Lorraine Miller, is billed as promoting diversity and competitiveness, building on earlier attempts to remove Iowa — which is majority white — from being first in the nominating process.

If passed, the resolution would establish a six-week application process for states that want to hold their primary elections before Super Tuesday. The Rules and Bylaws Committee could then pick up to five states for early status. Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada currently lead Democrats’ presidential primary calendar as the four “early states.”

“The RBC’s goal in every presidential election cycle is to construct a nominating process that reflects the diversity of the party; gives candidates of all types the opportunity and incentive to meet voters of all types; exemplifies our passionate belief in American democracy; and ultimately produces the strongest possible Democratic nominee for president,” write Roosevelt and Miller in the draft proposal, which is expected to be discussed at a virtual meeting Monday.

Details of the draft were first reported by the Washington Post.

Last week, ABC News learned New Jersey Democrats lobbied DNC Chair Jamie Harrison for consideration as an early primary state.

Nevada is privately vying for the state’s primary to replace Iowa’s as the first in the nation, according to The Washington Post. But that would conflict with New Hampshire law, which dictates the state’s presidential primary must be first in the nation. Iowa for years has been able to circumvent that legality by holding a caucus, not a primary.

Michigan Rep. Debbie Dingell, a Democrat, told ABC News that she continues to believe Iowa and New Hampshire should not have “a disappropriate impact on the presidential nominating system.”

“I think [Michigan] should have a chance, but I think every state in the country should have an opportunity to be in that rotation, to have presidential candidates know what your issues are,” said Dingell. “Every region should have their opportunity to get the kind of attention New Hampshire and Iowa do.”

The Michigan Democratic Party declined to comment.

Any potential change to the nominating calendar would have to be finalized before the DNC’s summer meeting, which members expect will occur in August or September.

A source with knowledge of RBC meetings said the time-sensitive nature of changing the DNC’s primary calendar is one of the most promising cards Iowa has to play to keep its first spot in line.

Legacy Iowa Democrats often acknowledge the state’s lack of diversity on paper but prop up its diverse ideals. The Hawkeye state, they say, put the first Black president — Barack Obama — on the map, and then selected the first female presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton. After weekslong controversy in 2020, the state selected the country’s first openly gay presidential candidate, Pete Buttigieg.

“We’re the only state that didn’t select an old white guy in their primaries, and we’re being knocked for not being diverse enough,” said Bret Nilles, five-term Linn County Democratic Party chair.

Iowa Democrats’ 2020 general election losses across key suburban districts — most of which flipped blue two years into Donald Trump’s presidency, in 2018 — signified a significant reversal in the usually purple state.

Still, Iowa’s representative to the Rules and Bylaws Committee, Scott Brennan, told ABC News that Iowa will continue to fight for its place.

“The four early state process, it’s been very successful in electing Democratic presidents, even in some challenging times,” Brennan said. “I don’t have any concern about us putting together a vigorous defense of Iowa.”

“We offer the diversity end of talking to rural folks, one in five Americans live in a rural area,” he added. “So if Democrats can’t talk to rural folks, then, you know, we’ve got 20% of the American voting electorate that is often overlooked.”

The Iowa Democratic Party did not return a request for comment and referred ABC News to a statement it released after the DNC’s spring meeting earlier this month, in which party Chair Ross Wilburn said he will “always fight for Iowa to remain first.”

ABC News’ Benjamin Siegel contributed to this report.

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US formally accuses Russian forces of committing war crimes in Ukraine

US formally accuses Russian forces of committing war crimes in Ukraine
US formally accuses Russian forces of committing war crimes in Ukraine
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(WASHINGTON) — Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Wednesday announced that the State Department has made a formal assessment that Russian forces have committed war crimes in Ukraine.

“Based on information currently available, the U.S. government assesses that members of Russia’s forces have committed war crimes in Ukraine. Our assessment is based on a careful review of available information from public and intelligence sources,” Blinken said in a statement.

The assessment does not come with any new U.S. sanctions, but it backs a global push for accountability for Russia’s artillery and airstrikes on civilians and civilian infrastructure.

President Joe Biden has said he believes Russian leader Vladimir Putin is a “war criminal,” an accusation that the Russian government said threatened diplomatic relations between the two countries, already strained to their breaking point over Putin’s war against Ukraine.

But whether the war crimes assessment means Putin himself is a war criminal will depend on an individual court of law, according to U.S. Ambassador-at-Large for Global Criminal Justice Beth Van Schaack.

“There are doctrines under international law and domestic law that are able to reach all the way up the chain of command,” she told reporters Wednesday, but whether that includes the Russian leader “would depend on a court that has jurisdiction,” she said.

Van Schaack wouldn’t say how the U.S. will push for accountability for what it has now deemed war crimes, adding, “Everything’s on the table. We’re considering all the various options for accountability.”

That includes the International Criminal Court, which has opened an investigation into potential war crimes, and domestic courts, including in neighboring countries who may gain custody of Russian service members or conduct trials in absentia.

But the U.S. legal system is ill-equipped to handle cases, Van Schaack said, because the U.S. War Crimes Act limits prosecutions to U.S. citizens who are perpetrators or victims. Congress is considering amending that law, she said.

Because the U.S. is not a party to the ICC, she said they have no “affirmative cooperation duties,” but left open the possibility for cooperating with it.

Russia and Ukraine are also not parties to the ICC, but Ukraine reached an agreement with the court to grant it jurisdiction to investigate potential war crimes dating back to Russia’s first invasion in 2014 when it seized the Crimean Peninsula and sparked the separatist war in eastern provinces known as the Donbas.

Van Schaack declined to speak to individual attacks that backed up the new U.S. assessment, but she and Blinken pointed to Russia directly targeting sites that were clearly marked for civilian use.

“Russia’s forces have destroyed apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, critical infrastructure, civilian vehicles, shopping centers, and ambulances, leaving thousands of innocent civilians killed or wounded. Many of the sites Russia’s forces have hit have been clearly identifiable as in-use by civilians,” Blinken said in his statement.

This includes the Mariupol maternity hospital and “a strike that hit a Mariupol theater, clearly marked with the word ‘дети’ — Russian for ‘children’ — in huge letters visible from the sky. Putin’s forces used these same tactics in Grozny, Chechnya, and Aleppo, Syria, where they intensified their bombardment of cities to break the will of the people,” Blinken added.

Van Schaack said individual Russian service members who conducted these attacks could be prosecuted, but so too could their commanders who were responsible for them and were either complicit in the attacks or even just because they didn’t stop their forces from conducting them.

The State Department will continue to compile evidence of war crimes and share them with the appropriate bodies, including Ukraine’s prosecutor general’s office, which has said it’s recorded over 2,400 “crimes of aggression and war crimes” in the month-long war and identified 127 suspects, prosecutor general Iryna Venediktova told the AFP.

That evidence includes not just video, photos, and other publicly available information, but U.S. intelligence, including intercepted communications between Russian service members, according to Van Schaack, who said all of it is being preserved for future trials.

“We don’t want to lose that evidence. We don’t want that evidence to be tampered with. So it’s extremely important that it be collected now and preserved with an eye towards future accountability,” she told reporters.

For weeks, U.S. officials, up to and including Biden, hinted that the U.S. was seeing evidence that Russia was committing war crimes, but deferred to a formal assessment from Van Schack’s office, the State Department’s office of global criminal justice.

Still, Biden told reporters last week he believed Putin is a “war criminal” — a comment that the Russian Foreign Ministry summoned U.S. ambassador John Sullivan over, warning it put U.S.-Russian relations “on the brink of collapse.”

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