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(WASHINGTON) — The House is expected to cast second-round votes for the next speaker Wednesday morning after Rep. Jim Jordan failed to win the speakership Tuesday when 20 Republicans voted against him.
Jordan, a conservative firebrand, staunch Donald Trump loyalist and founding member of the House Freedom Caucus, received his party’s nomination last week after House Majority Leader Steve Scalise bowed out of the race.
The Ohio congressman now faces an uphill battle in securing the 217 votes he needs to win the gavel.
Here’s how the news is developing. All times Eastern:
Oct 18, 3:54 PM EDT
Rep. Barr jokes with Capitol tourists: ‘Any of you want to sign up?’
More than two hours have passed and there’s little progress to report with the House still in recess. Still, there was a moment of levity with tourists amid the tense and chaotic speakership battle.
Rep. Andy Barr, R-Ky., just popped into the chamber and noticed about 20 visitors seated patiently in the gallery and shouted, “We’re looking for a speaker. Any of you want to sign up?”
The crowd laughed and someone shouted a question — asking him whether lawmakers are coming back for another round of votes for speaker.
He said he thought that was the plan and then walked over to the back of the chamber to chat with the visitors.
“Where are you from?” Barr asked, to which several visitors responded they were from South Carolina, Pittsburgh and Virginia.
Barr, who was the only member in the Chamber during this interaction, mingled for a few minutes before excusing himself.
“Thanks for coming,” he said. “Sorry we can’t show you any more right now.”
Oct 18, 3:28 PM EDT
Breaking down Jordan’s performance, GOP defectors
Jordan received one fewer vote in the second round than he did on Tuesday, receiving 199 votes.
Jordan picked up three members, but lost four others.
Seven Republicans voted for House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, who initially won the party’s nomination for speaker but bowed out of the race last week. They were: Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida, Drew Ferguson of Georgia, Tony Gonzales of Texas, Kay Granger of Texas, John Rutherford of Florida, Mike Simpson of Idaho and Steve Womack of Arkansas.
Five voted for McCarthy: Reps. Don Bacon of Nebraska, Lori Chavez DeRemer of Oregon, Carlos Gimenez of Florida, Jennifer Kiggans of Virginia and Mike Lawler of New York.
Other Republicans who voted for someone else include Reps Vern Buchanan of Florida, Ken Buck of Ohio, Jake Ellzey of Kansas, Mary Miller-Meeks of Iowa, John James of Michigan, Mike Kelley of Pennsylvania and Pete Stauber of Minnesota.
Oct 18, 3:21 PM EDT
Centrists, institutionalists block Jordan’s path
The 22 Republicans who voted against Jordan make up a group of centrists and institutionalists who show no signs of budging anytime soon.
The group of detractors cited an array of reasons for voting against Jordan, including refusing to reward the lawmakers who voted to oust McCarthy, bristling against the pressure campaign from Jordan’s allies and rising worries over Jordan’s ideological rigidity, including his support for efforts to overturn the 2020 election results.
“It made us mad, and it backfires,” Rep. Don Bacon, R-Neb., said Wednesday on Newsmax of the pressure campaign. “Some of the younger folks, maybe that works. But someone like me … you win us over with an argument that makes sense. You’re going to have to convince us. And threatening us does not work.”
Oct 18, 1:39 PM EDT
Jordan suffers 2nd defeat
Jordan has officially lost a second vote in his bid for speaker.
The Ohio Republican received 199 votes. House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries received 212 votes. Twenty-two Republicans cast their ballot for someone else.
Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry gaveled the House into recess.
3:24
Jim Jordan loses more votes in second round of voting for House speaker
Oct 18, 1:12 PM EDT
GOP likely to meet behind closed doors after vote
Republicans will most likely go into a closed-door conference meeting, which is expected to include discussions about a potential short-term solution, among other things.
A conference meeting hasn’t officially been noticed to Republicans yet, but sources said that’s the next expected step after the vote closes.
-ABC’s Katherine Faulders
Oct 18, 1:01 PM EDT
Republican opposition to Jordan rises
Jordan is facing even more opposition in this second round, with 22 Republicans so far casting their ballot for someone else.
On Tuesday, he had 20 GOP defectors.
The vote is still ongoing.
Oct 18, 12:26 PM EDT
Jordan on track for another defeat
The vote is ongoing, but already 10 Republicans have voted against Jordan, with that number expected to rise.
Oct 18, 12:18 PM EDT
Second vote for speaker is underway
A roll call vote is now underway.
Each member is being called on alphabetically to voice who they want to see succeed McCarthy. Jordan can only afford to lose four House Republicans before a fifth upsets his bid.
Oct 18, 12:51 PM EDT
Rep. Tom Cole nominates Jordan for speaker
Oklahoma Rep. Tom Cole stood to nominate Jordan for the second ballot vote, saying he has what it takes to be speaker.
“He doesn’t dissemble. He simply tells you straight up, ‘this is what I believe,’ ‘this is why I think it’s the right thing to do for this country and that’s why I’m going to try to accomplish and work with you any way I can to do it,'” Cole said.
Cole commended Jordan’s work on committees and his stances on spending, immigration and more.
Cole also invoked the terror attacks in Israel, stating Israel is within its right to punish Hamas, which received a standing ovation from Republicans and Democrats.
“In a moment of crisis, and we are in a moment of crisis, we should come together to act,” Cole said. “And we know we can’t do that without a speaker of the House.”
Democrats once again nominated Hakeem Jeffries for speaker.
Oct 18, 11:44 AM EDT
Jordan: ‘We got to decide today’ on path forward
Jordan told reporters the American people deserve to have an answer today on what lies ahead.
“Look, I think we got to decide today. Are we going to have a Republican speaker … or is the body going to adopt this resolution with the speaker pro tempore?” Jordan said, referencing an effort to empower Rep. Patrick McHenry to conduct House business.
“I think both questions should be called,” Jordan said. “Let’s get an answer. We’ve been at this two weeks, the American people deserve to have their government functioning.”
Oct 18, 11:14 AM EDT
Republicans poised to reject Jordan on second ballot
Jordan is poised to lose Wednesday on a second ballot on the election of a speaker, but the Ohio Republican is showing no signs of giving up.
While Jordan has continued to attempt to sway holdout Republicans, only Rep. Doug LaMalfa of California has announced a change of heart following the first ballot. LaMalfa had initially voted for his fellow Californian, McCarthy — and now says he’ll support Jordan instead of the former speaker on the second ballot.
But the 19 other Republicans who bucked Jordan in the first round have not publicly shifted their stance yet, and Jordan is actually expected to lose additional lawmakers on the second ballot.
Oct 18, 10:19 AM EDT
Jordan could lose more Republicans on second ballot
A few Republican holdouts are reluctant to even take another meeting with Jordan or return his phone calls ahead of the second ballot set for Wednesday morning, sources tell ABC News.
By forcing another vote, Jordan runs the risk of losing even more Republicans on the second ballot. It’s unclear just how many gave him assurances that they’d only support him on the first round.
Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries told reporters that talks between Democrats and Republicans have accelerated on an alternative plan to get the House back to business. Sources say Jeffries floated the idea of elevating a temporary speaker for a limited time so the House can do its work — a signal that a growing number of Democrats could support this plan.
Most Republicans expect the opposition against Jordan to grow Wednesday.
Oct 18, 9:42 AM EDT
If Jordan’s can’t win, one Republican wants to empower Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry
Rep. Dave Joyce, R-Ohio, one of the few remaining moderates in the GOP majority, could bring up a motion to empower temporary speaker Patrick McHenry if Jordan can’t lock down the votes for speaker on the second ballot Wednesday morning.
“After two weeks without a Speaker of the House and no clear candidate with 217 votes in the Republican conference, it is time to look at other viable options. By empowering Patrick McHenry as Speaker Pro Tempore we can take care of our ally Israel until a new Speaker is elected,” Joyce said in a statement.
By officially “empowering” McHenry, Republicans could give themselves a (temporary) off ramp to approve emergency aid to Israel and to fund the government to avert a shutdown next month.
It’s not clear how long Joyce is proposing to empower McHenry, or if Republicans will allow Joyce to do so, instead of letting others run for speaker if Jordan falls short. It’s likely Democrats would need to back the proposal on the House floor, too.
McHenry and his team have suggested he isn’t interested in the role.
Oct 17, 5:21 PM EDT
Next speaker vote expected Wednesday morning
The next speaker vote will be at 11 a.m. Wednesday, Jordan said after he left a two-hour meeting in Whip Emmer’s office.
He reiterated that he is not going to drop out of the speaker battle and emphasized that he had basically the same level of support as McCarthy on his first vote in January.
Jordan said he expects to gain support in a Wednesday morning vote, mentioning Florida Rep. Gus Bilirakis, who missed today’s vote because of a family funeral. He didn’t address potential future defectors.
Oct 17, 4:52 PM EDT
What Republicans are saying about Jordan’s first-round loss
Emerging from the floor after Jordan’s failed first vote, some Republicans expressed open frustration while others remained optimistic.
“We gotta wake up and stop this nonsense. There’s real serious work to be done,” Pennsylvania Rep. Dan Meuser said.
Meuser had “direct” and “strong” conversations with GOP colleagues after the vote to try to swing them, he said. “We’ve got to understand — we’ve got to operate as a team, because if we don’t, we will lose everything.”
But he has to contend with members such as Colorado’s Ken Buck, who is staunchly anti-Jordan because of concerns he won’t support Ukraine funding and because of his role in protesting the 2020 election results.
“I am not going to vote for Jim, I just think there’s too much there at this point,” Buck told ABC News. Buck said he feels so strongly “because I just don’t think that we can win the presidential election if we have candidates and leaders in our party who won’t admit that Donald Trump lost, who won’t admit that the Republican Party wants to move forward.”
Of course, Republicans such as Meuser and others argued that not voting in a speaker will also threaten GOP victories in the next election.
“I think it absolutely casts a bad cloud over the institution and Republicans,” New York Rep. Nicole Malliotakis told ABC News.
Still others, however, were more optimistic — comparing this process to McCarthy’s and using it to argue that Jordan is on track for success.
“Do you believe that at the end of the day, it’s going to be Speaker Jordan?” ABC News Senior Congressional Correspondent Rachel Scott asked Tennessee Rep. Tim Burchett.
“I do,” he replied.
-ABC’s Cheyenne Haslett
Oct 17, 4:26 PM EDT
GOP infighting continues
Jordan met with Scalise behind closed doors on Tuesday and asked for help to get the needed votes, a source told ABC News Senior Congressional Correspondent Rachel Scott. The source says Scalise wouldn’t commit to helping Jordan.
Scalise was the conference’s first choice for speaker in an internal contest last week, as he defeated Jordan 113-99. But he dropped out days later, amid opposition from holdouts who were backing Jordan.
Of the 20 Republicans who voted against Jordan in the first round, seven voted for Scalise.
Scalise cast his vote for Jordan.
Oct 17, 3:57 PM EDT
Jeffries urges GOP to join Dems in ‘finding a bipartisan path forward’
ABC News asked House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries if he sees Republicans forging a way out of the speakership impasse today.
“It’s not a complicated situation,” Jeffries responded. “We just need traditional Republicans to break from the extremists and join us in finding a bipartisan path forward. We’ve said it over and over and over again. We are ready, willing and able to get together and reopen the House.”
Oct 17, 3:27 PM EDT
Jordan tells ABC more members will vote for him on 2nd ballot
ABC News caught Jordan moments after he left the House chamber. He made it clear that he’s staying in the race for speaker, insisting there will be another vote tonight.
“We thought we were doing well … that we were in that area or a little more maybe, but we feel confident. We already talked to some members who are going to vote with us on the second ballot,” Jordan said as he rushed into an office.
-ABC’s Rachel Scott, Lauren Peller, Arthur Jones and John Parkinson
Oct 17, 2:49 PM EDT
Jordan’s team says expect another round of votes today
“The House needs a speaker as soon as possible,” Russell Dye, a spokesperson for Jordan, said in a statement. “Expect another round of votes today. It’s time for Republicans to come together.”
The timing of a second vote, however, remains unclear.
-ABC’s Katherine Faulders
Oct 17, 2:26 PM EDT
McCarthy says Jordan shouldn’t drop out, confident he’ll get the votes
McCarthy, the former speaker, attempted to equate Jordan’s loss to exactly what happened to him.
“Jordan had just as many votes as I had on the first one. I think the difference here is we have rules so we can sit down, talk to the other members and be able to move forward,” McCarthy said.
McCarthy lost 19 Republicans on the first ballot, while Jordan lost 20.
When asked if Jordan should drop out, McCarthy exclaimed: “No! No!”
“I saw the exact same vote that I got when I ran and I became speaker,” McCarthy said.
McCarthy said he’ll talk to Jordan and help in any way he can. When asked if he thinks Jordan will ultimately get the votes, McCarthy said “yes.”
-ABC’s Katherine Faulders
Oct 17, 2:02 PM EDT
House goes into recess
Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry, after reading aloud the results of the first ballot, gaveled the chamber into recess.
“A speaker has not been elected,” McHenry said.
There will not be an immediate second vote. Lawmakers are now expected to huddle behind closed doors in conference.
Oct 17, 2:10 PM EDT
The 20 Republicans who voted against Jordan
Twenty House Republicans cast their ballot for someone other than Jordan.
Seven voted for Scalise: Reps. Tony Gonzales of Texas, Kay Granger of Texas, Mario Diaz Balart of Florida, Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania, John Rutherford of Florida, Reps. Mike Simpson of Idaho and Steve Womack of Arkansas.
Six voted McCarthy: Reps. Lori Chavez DeRemer of Oregon, Don Bacon of Nebraska, Carlos Gimenez of Florida, Jennifer Kiggans of Virginia, Mike Lawler of New York and Doug LaMalfa of California.
Three voted for former New York congressman Lee Zeldin: Reps. Anthony D’Espositio, Andrew Garbarino and Nick LaLota — all members of the New York delegation.
Kansas Rep. Jake Ellzey voted for Mike Garcia of California; Colorado’s Ken Buck voted for House Majority Whip Tom Emmer; Michigan Rep. John James voted for Oklahoma Rep. Tom Cole; and Indiana Rep. Victoria Spartz voted for Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky.
Oct 17, 1:56 PM EDT
Jordan loses first round of voting
Jordan lost his first bid for the speakership. He received 200 votes, but needed at least 217 to clinch the gavel.
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, nominated by Democrats, received 212 votes. Twenty lawmakers voted for someone else.
Oct 17, 1:33 PM EDT
McCarthy, ousted exactly 2 weeks ago, votes for Jordan
McCarthy, toppled by a small group of GOP hard-liners on Oct. 3, voted for Jordan to be his successor.
The moment was met with applause from the Republican side of the chamber.
But Jordan is still on track to lose on the first ballot, with 15 Republicans casting a vote for someone else.
Oct 17, 1:14 PM EDT
Jordan already falls short of vote needed
The vote is ongoing, but Jordan does not appear to have the support needed to win on the first ballot.
At least five Republicans have voted for someone else.
Two lawmakers, Rep. Don Bacon of Nebraska and Rep. Lori Chavez-Deremer of Oregon voted for McCarthy. Anthony D’Esposito voted for former Rep. Lee Zeldin., Rep. Mario Diaz Balart of Florida voted for Steve Scalise. Rep. Jake Ellzey voted for fellow Republican Rep. Mike Garcia.
Oct 17, 1:02 PM EDT
The math behind the speaker vote
There are 432 members in attendance for the upcoming vote to elect a speaker, according to the quorum call.
That means that 217 is the majority threshold needed to win the gavel, presuming every member in attendance votes for someone by name.
Jordan can only afford to lose three votes.
The speaker vote began shortly before 1 p.m.
Oct 17, 1:00 PM EDT
Democrats nominate Hakeem Jeffries, slam Jordan’s record
Rep. Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., nominated House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries for speaker.
Aguilar focused much of his remarks on Jordan’s record, noting that one of Jordan’s own colleagues once described him as a “legislative terrorist.”
“When New Yorkers were recovering from Hurricane Sandy and needed Congress to act, he said ‘no,'” Aguilar said. “When wildfires ravaged the west, destroying homes and businesses and those residents needed disaster assistance, he said ‘no.’ When the Mississippi river floods devastated the south in communities across state lines and needed Congress to act, he said ‘no.’ When our veterans were suffering from disease and dying as a result of their service to our country and Congress passed a bipartisan solution, he said ‘no.'”
Democrats seated behind Aguilar responded to each example with the chant, “He said no.”
“This body is talking about elevating a speaker nominee who has not passed a single bill in 16 years,” Aguilar said. “These are not the actions of someone interested in governing or bettering the lives of everyday Americans.”
Oct 17, 12:49 PM EDT
Stefanik nominates Jordan for speaker
Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., rose to nominate Jordan for speaker. She received rounding applause from Republicans in the chamber.
“We are at a time of great crisis across America,” Stefanik said. “A time of historic challenges in this very chamber. And a time when heinous acts of terror and evil have been committed against our great ally, Israel.”
Stefanik went on to praise Jordan as a “patriot” and a “winner.”
“He’s an America-first warrior who wins the toughest of fights,” she said. “Going after corruption and delivering accountability at the highest levels of government, on behalf of we the people. Jim is the voice of the American people who have felt voiceless for far too long.”
Oct 17, 12:22 PM EDT
Quorum call is underway
Speaker Pro Tempore Patrick McHenry opened the chamber at 12:03 p.m., quickly moving the lower chamber into a prayer led by Margaret Grun Kibben.
Following the opening prayer and the pledge of allegiance, the House began a quorum call to establish the members who are present and voting.
Oct 17, 12:14 PM EDT
Jordan ignores questions on 2020 election
Jordan’s actions leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack have been under scrutiny in his run for speaker.
Colorado Rep. Ken Buck, one Republican holdout, has pointed to Jordan’s past comments about the 2020 election and Jan. 6.
Buck told ABC News on Monday, “I think Jim at some point If he is going to lead this conference … is going to have to be strong and say Donald Trump didn’t win the election, and we need to move forward. Hopefully, you know, for Republicans, we get a Republican candidate in the White House.”
ABC News pushed Jordan on that point ahead of the vote.
“I have been very clear about that,” he responded. “There were states that unconstitutionally changed our election law and that’s what I objected to, as did the vast, vast majority of Republican members of Congress.”
Asked if he would acknowledge that Trump lost the 2020 election, Jordan appeared to hear the question but did not respond and got onto the elevator. Two hours later, another reporter asked the same question and Jordan ignored it.
Oct 17, 12:04 PM EDT
Jordan projects confidence
Jordan spent the final hours meeting with GOP holdouts and working the phones ahead of the noon vote. There are still at least 10 holdouts and several members who have not said publicly how they will vote.
“We are going to find out here pretty soon,” Jordan told ABC News Senior Congressional Correspondent Rachel Scott when asked if he has enough support to get elected.
Oct 17, 12:01 PM EDT
House chamber filling up ahead of vote
Minutes before the House opens for business, the gallery of the House chamber is filling up with more than 200 tourists and other visitors to the Capitol as journalists begin to settle into the press galleries and lawmakers arrive on the floor.
Among the first members on the floor is Republican Rep. Frank Lucas of Oklahoma, who is using a walker as he recovers from a major operation after sustaining a hip injury farming. Lucas took a seat in the back near the aisle, chatting briefly with Republican Rep. Randy Weber of Texas.
Louisiana Republican Mike Johnson, who is rumored to be mulling his own bid for speaker if Jordan fails, is seated at the GOP leadership table. He walked over to the center aisle to talk with Colorado Democrat Joe Neguse.
Michigan Democrat Dan Kildee is seated behind the Democrat leadership table. Neguse is now seated there, chatting with his colleague. Rep. Debbie Dingel of Michigan is also seated on the Democratic side, scrolling through her phone.
Tennessee Republican Andy Ogles is the first of the Freedom Caucus members to stake their usual spot along the center aisle.
Oct 17, 11:55 AM EDT
Timing of the first-round speaker vote
Here’s the timing for what we expect for the first round of speaker votes this afternoon:
The clerk (Kevin McCumber, acting clerk) calls the House of Representatives to order at noon EST.
Prayer led by Margaret Grun Kibben — the first female chaplain of the House.
Pledge of Allegiance led by the House clerk.
Quorum call is ordered by the clerk. Members are called to vote electronically by state. At this point, we will hear the official number of lawmakers present and voting.
Election for speaker with nominations made by selected lawmakers. Typically, one lawmaker from each party is nominated — in this case, Jordan is the Republican nominee and Jeffries is the Democratic nominee. House Republican Conference chairwoman Elise Stefanik will nominate Jordan; House Democratic Caucus chairman Pete Aguilar will nominate Jeffries.
Debate on the nomination of candidates for speaker is allowed but not customary.
“Tellers” are appointed to count “viva voce” voice votes, usually two members from each side of the aisle. A “viva voce” vote is one spoken aloud. The (usually) four tellers take a seat at the dais and tally votes on paper.
Roll is then called by the House reading clerk with members calling out the last name of their chosen speaker; the clerk repeats the choice so everyone hears it. This could take up to one hour.
The House clerk announces the results; appoints an escort committee to formally escort the new Speaker-elect into the chamber.
Oct 17, 10:57 AM EDT
Does Jordan have the votes?
Currently the whole number of the House is 433, with two vacancies that won’t be filled until later this year. Presuming all 433 members vote, Jordan would need 217 votes to be named speaker.
But a whip count from ABC News shows it’s unlikely Jordan, who won the GOP nomination on Friday, has locked down the votes. He can only afford to lose four votes. As of right now, up to 10 Republicans have signaled that they plan to vote for someone other than Jordan on the first ballot. No Democrats are expected to support Jordan’s nomination.
A top aide to Jordan told ABC News that the congressman has “been meeting with members and making calls” this morning ahead of the vote.
Oct 17, 10:54 AM EDT
What to expect
The House will convene at noon today to consider the nomination of Jordan for speaker.
First, a quorum call will be ordered by the clerk for members to establish the official number of lawmakers present and voting.
Then, the election for speaker will take place. Typically, one lawmaker from each party is nominated: Jordan for Republicans and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries for Democrats. Lawmakers will then have a period of debate before a roll call vote in which each member will be called upon to state who they support for speaker.
If the first round fails, they have to restart this process or the House might recess so members could meet behind closed doors in conference.
Oct 17, 10:55 AM EDT
Who is Jim Jordan?
The Ohio Republican won the GOP nomination for speaker last week.
A conservative firebrand and favorite of former President Donald Trump, Jordan was first elected to Congress in 2006 and in 2015, founded the House Freedom Caucus — a conservative group that supports hard-line stances on government spending, health care, immigration and other issues.
Now, as the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Jordan is one of the Republicans leading the impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden and investigations into his son, Hunter.
-ABC’s Sarah Beth Hensley
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